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... they pushed me, and it upset me." Papa John's founder John Schnatter, discussing former AOR Laundry Service Schnatter made his first public comments since the incident on the call with Terry Meiners of NewsRadio 840 WHAS. Schnatter described himself as “distraught” and said, “We don’t condone racism in anyway,” adding, “regardless of the context, you just can’t use that kind of vocabulary.” He then implied his words may have been “misconstrued” before stating that the agency was responsible for starting the offending conversation. “Believe it or not, Terry, the agency was promoting that vocabulary,” he said, referring to Laundry Service. “I made it real clear: Listen, we’re not gonna go there. We’re not gonna talk about this. But they pushed me, and it upset me.” “I said, ‘Listen, other people have used that word. But I don’t and will not use that word, and people at Papa John’s won’t use that,'” Schnatter said before asserting that unnamed Laundry Service staff members “actually wanted to get into that vocabulary” and adding, “I said absolutely not.” While Schnatter acknowledged his own responsibility, he also said the part of the conversation in which he told those present that he would never use the N-word due to his upbringing had not been reported in the Forbes story. “Shame on me for even bringing it up,” he said. Meiners repeatedly asked whether Schnatter believed he had been “duped” by the agency or others running the training session.
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